Acadia said "And you can use Poseray to convert the lightwave models to .obj for use in Poser" Argh! Poser had trouble loading the Lightwave file - even tho it says it can import them - must be for an earlier version of LW. Oh well. Another option is to load the ".lwo" into Wings3D and then re-save them as a new ".lwo" with everything intact or with edited changes. I've found that Poser and Wings3D get along fairly well. good luck jdc