DDMWM - Try messaging Rexxzilla. He's the guy that created the models. The problem is that he had to take them down as they were taking up several meg of space that he needed. I gave him a call and he gave me access to his FreeDrive space where he'd moved them to. Ask nicely and he might do the same for you... :o) Good luck! Can't wait to see the new project either! - Hairy