Jim I just tried Rob's Null Loader, I changed its name to "Figure 1" after loading and selected body + No Actor and it worked fine. I have it re-saved as "Figure 1" in the Library. I also tried the other solution on the Daz site of loading Vicky 1 first and then the Vicky 2 models and that worked as well, although I think Rob's solution is better as it is not a memory hog! Thanks again all of you Now for my next problem.....;o) John