It's possible that getting aggressive is the only way to make Eovia understand that we want our patch. I don't like complaining but I've been patient for a long time(since the day I bought Carrara)and we should be venting our frustrations on here, it's healthy and non-violent. Mabye just mabye Eovia will pay attention and realise that we are not buying Amapi just fill the void that Carrara is leaving. I realise that Eovia didn't screw us in the first place, Metacreations did! But they have to understand that we were left on the side of the road with a screwed up program. I wonder if Metacreations informed them when they bought Carrara that there were a whole bunch of angry customers that came along with the purchase of Carrara who were tricked into buying the program in the first place. "Damned little korrigans"!!!!I won't say retarded or troll again, I promise.