bobsmash All that Rob's Null loader is, is a cr2 file that references no geometry when you load it (I do not mean to belittle it in any way). As a result there is nothing to see on the screen, but for the program it exists and that is the key point. Poser believes there is a figure loaded and this - if you name the Null loader Figure 1 (space between Figure and 1)- stops the cross-talk between the subsequent figures loaded and allows you to have 2 or more Vicky 2 figures loaded and fully working. These subsequent figures load as Figure 2, 3, etc. I don't use Mac's but if a Mac can use a cr2 file then it should work. Otherwise do whatever one does to convert a cr2 to Mac format and try it. BTW Rob's Null loader comes in at only 4kb unpacked compared to over 20 Megs for the Vicky 2 cr2. Very nice going. STORM