If the people at DAZ can model nipples, they can certainly at least give the female models the suggestion of labia! I am a woman artist, I don't do porn, but I do think our bodies are pretty neat... and nothing to be ashamed of. A non-descript blank wedge is an insult. (It is the equivalent of a plain brown wrapper.) The guys in Utah may be embarassed; I'm not. Nipples can be faked with a texture map, but they built the geometry for nipples. The argument saying "why build it if it can be textured" won't hold up. Carolly