Nothing like this to get a conversation going. Not to be left out here's my 2 bobs worth: "no use for genitalia in art" Wow, what a simplification of the word 'art'. Anyway this is also about modeling not just what some people call art. Never the less I guess it's a valid opinion, among an infinate number of different opinions. "Mike has em, Vicky don't" Now that's a cruel trick to play on Mike, also sounds like sexual discrimination to me. I personally don't have a problem with genitalia and the human body. It all seems kinda natural to me. But beware, let us not forget those that would disagree with ALL depictions of nudity and would have models provided ONLY fully clothed. Aarrghh!