jfbeute, thanks for your detailed reply. just two more questions: 1. which poser model is that (I'm guessing michael 2 or 3)? 2. how does one select the skullcap? I have been trying this with apollo, but I don't see the skullcap there to select. I had to paint in the polygons, then add guide hairs. there are still quite a few bugs, so don't hesitate to report any you encounter.