Damm.... this just keeps getting more complicated. :) but I am not going to give up. LOL Have now downloaded netscape 9.... what do I do with it? You say you use it in poser, but I couldn't find anything that could be it. I went to google and found that netscape216 is a colour chart, but other than that I'm lost. Now here's what I have. Mac os x 10.4 (tiger), Poser 6, Photoshop CS2, GifBuilder and Netscape. Maybe I should try something in cartoon form, but that would be something new again and I would probably give up. I can see that this is going to be a steeper learning curve than I thought, but if you don't mind helping to find my way, I shall keep working at it. Is there somewhere in Poser that I can render for GIF, or would that be too easy? :m_confused: