samtherepy"To the OP - your post is what's known round here as "A dead horse".  If you want meaningful criticism, participate in the Critique forum. "
 i didnt post this thread because I am seeking constructive criticism. It was written to encourage others to make their comments more meaningful, and offer others suggestions on ways to improve their images. Is no one here of the opinion that someone who wants to improve their work, would benefit from meaningful comments which offer constructive criticism? 
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Here's my definition of art samtherepy:
****Art
1.  creation of beautiful things: the creation of beautiful or thought-provoking works, for example, in painting, music, or writing 
2.  beautiful objects: beautiful or thought-provoking works produced through creative activity 
3.  branch of art: a branch or category of art, especially one of the visual arts 
4.  artistic skill: the skill and technique involved in producing visual representations 
5.  creation by humans: creation by human endeavor rather than by nature  
6.  ability: the skill or ability to do something well **

**This definition seems to support my above statement that real art involves a desire to improve and be good at what you are doing.those artists you mentioned did develope their skills, and had teachers or fellow artists who helped them along.

If you have no desire to do well at art, then you are not really an artist.Artists have passion for their work that leads them to improve in what they do and be inspired to do well...**