Thank you Guys!!! :)) here my new nerdy stuff for you... no mirror balls, no cameras, just Poser7 and material room.. a very cool trick for everyone to make! and the effect is very good.. I am working on the other parts right now so here as first are the renders rendered on the intensity of this light from 0,0 to 1,0 it is HDR IBL AO.. one light was used.. everything from the begining to end generated using Poser7 ..with one lil jump to HDR Shop I will tell you the trick at the end when I am finished b/c still rendering the other parts..

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