Ahhhh... that would account for my 'pretty' pictures only getting a couple of responses. LOL Am going to try all what you have said. The wings do have shades so will 'blacken' them off, and I wasn't too happy with the ball, it seems 'jerky' but maybe doing the colours will fix that. I really didn't try alot of expermentation with it, I was just happy to have it all working. I used only the colours on the netscape palette, but I didn't use a 'hard' brush for the ball and I could see that once done, the 'fuzzy' bits showed up as a strong colour as well.