Mmmm! So, if this affects P4, we should expect an update from CL to cure it (4.1?) If it only affects Vicky2, we should expect an update from DAZ (v2.1?) Either way we are the customers and shouldn't have to mess about trying to get round problems inherent in software we paid good money for (Legitimately bought software works both ways CL) The products are pretty darned good, so I'm confident we will see these companies look after their user base. Mmmm!