Half the advice I get from people on these pages is worth money in the marketplace (Ok, so 'Half' is an exaggeration but the principle stands). When I posted a request for a primitive to get me going it took about thirty minutes before somebody I'd never spoken to mailed me what I wanted. 'Goes around, comes around' is a great market. The idea for the cd's is really handy. But Sturkwurks has offered to host the files so I hope that's sorted.