The pose on V1 is extreme for the arms. I had to reset the limits with my setup to get it. Vicki out of the box does not come close. This is MillieJCM2 with adapted V2 morphs for JCM and one of my PBM set by hand. The V2 elbow fix is on, but it is mostly masked here. I think the twisting of the muscle under the arm is due to my joint setup as there are no JCM for this muscle. The limbs go so far with this that it seems to mask most JCM fixes. Nan, can you get me a graphic of the traps-pecks effect? The polys are sort of large in the area but something might be done.