Klanger, I am not down on Amapi. I said only that it did not work properly on my system and made no judgements about the program. I tried the v6 demo. If I can't get the demo to work I would be a fool to spend my money on the full product. If you read the posts in this thread again you will find that nobody has said a single word against Amapi. But people are upset that they paid for something, Carrara, that is so buggy as to be unuseable for many. Even so they have patiently awaited a patch which time after time fails to materialize despite the publisher's promises. Is it truly such a difficult thing to understand that people only want what they paid for?