This is a little OT of courser, but someone from Corel called me (as a registered Painter 6 user), and asked me to take part in a survey. Then I was able to ask questions and I asked how much the upgrade form Painter 6 to Painter 7 was, and was told it was like $280.00.... then she asked me if I would upgrade, and I told her I couldn't believe the upgrade would cost so much becaus my full boxed version of Painter 6 which I had bought from Comp USA had only been $400.00! In any event, I imagine that the Bryce 5 upgrade, if there even is any, will probably be more expensive than the upgrade from 3 to 4. I'm also a registered Brycer, but I never use it anymore, sinc egetting into Vue. I was not impressed with Corel's 4.1 "upgrade" to Bryce 4 any more than I was with their "upgrade" to Painter 6.1--- I'm STILL trying to figure out how they called what they did to Painter an upgrade, unless you want to count that now the Corel name appears on it... I only hope they are actually trying to do a real improvement with these two great programs, and not simply hoping to cash in on peoples' trust. I for one, don't trust Corel.