Jim, It is hard to explain, isn't it? I understand it, yes. You have made the choice to fix on Figure:1, it seems. You are using CM on the skirt? Or does a JCM in a clothing figure respond to its own joint control, if the joint itself is set by the figure it is conformed to? Wait. A skirt cannot have buttock/thigh/shin to be conrolled by the figure. It can have one of them , but you still have that damn hip section in the middle. How do you do an automatic skirt morph without CM? If you do have CM and everything is set up for Figure:1 , what about a second SMV with a skirt? Its control would be Figure:1 ? Does the Null-loader allow Figure:2 (or whatever it is, depending on how much clothing comes in on SMV:1) to control the CM on a skirt conformed to it? By the way, do you think anyone is reading over our shoulders? I get almost zero feedback, how about you?