Ok ENOUGH.

I warned, apparently, you guys either can't read ONLY MY posts, or you both choose to ignore.

YOU ARE BOTH COMING TO THE SAME CONCLUSION FROM A DIFFERENT PATH.  You guys are coming VERY VERY close to making me pre-empitvely close the post because you can't take 2 seconds to realise that you're saying VERY similar things BOTH OF YOU and are arguing that the other one's doing it wrong.

I'm locking it for the night.  If I feel charitable to the REST of the community, I'll unlock it when I get up in the a.m. This is a valuable thread, and I will NOT have it gone the way of the Dodo just because you guys can't chill.

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