No just gutsy or stupid. Seriously you don't know how many times I've seen that kind of stuff. Weird. I just realized how strange that is. I've seen it so often I guess I had begun to assume that everyone had. I don't mean like it's an everyday occurance but at least one or twice by the time they are 20 years old. But now I'm not so sure. Hmm. Interesting or scarry. Both? Bsteph