nice job, vince! pls show us a wireframe-closeup. btw, above you can see an example for 'unneeded' polys. the top on the left has 1363 polys, the other one 5452. if it wasn't for the shoulderstraps, you couldn't tell the difference. and if i'd add some 50 or 100 polys there, there'd be no difference at all... and another 'btw': afaik the new apollo has 40000 polys (!) and yet another 'btw': pls show us the whole outfit (untextured). ;)