OK,.......here's my 2 cents worth,........or 2 pence, depending on where you live. Firstly, Bryster, we here at the Bryce Forum don't use "torture" we prefer to kidnap suspects and turn them over to foriegn forums for "enhanced interogation" . Secondly,..........I am learning other apps (C4d, Rhino, Zbrush) but I find myself going back to Bryce and still use it as my main mode of artistic expression. It's ease of use and versatility are the main factors at play for me. As far as being able to produce superior images, one needs only to look at the work of former Bryce artists such as Rochr, Flak, drawbridgep, woodhurst, beton and a host of others. And now that Bryce has IBL and multi-threading capabilites (primitive as they migtht be), it is a bit more maliable so to speak. As far as Daz,.............yeah,..........I dunno what to say. They kept Bryce alive anyhow,........that's should count for something in the larger scheme of things. Don't you think ? Even if the vast majority of new users do see it only as a platform for naked Vickies and SOW's.  Anyway,.............that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Hee, hee, hee, hee.

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