Pjz, I'm living in the dark ages.  Back in 85, I had to make several memory board which meant inserting the chips onto a blank board and soldering each pin to the lan.  "Fold overs" were a constant threat and it took only one pin of one chip to render the board unusable.  I was lucky, all mine were good- but back then I had 20,20 vision-now I have two types of glasses, one pair for computer display work and the other for reading books and driving.  Crap, I didn't mean to hijack the thread, sorry.  Plutom