Well Varian, you enter the challenge, and you get yourself one of those flowers for your very own...what's better, is I believe I might have succeeded in getting Verdie to send the .obj files which make it up, so I can put it together and also have it as a .obj for the Vue 2-ers. Ummm... more bulls, eh? Wonder if I can do an alien sci-fi Summer fence-attack scene? ;)