always Dave... many of us that've "already spent the allowance for the nest couple of years" are always on the look out for new things and chara 8 ) for my self? I use the P3/P4 Dude near exclusively.. tween Travelers and R_Kane's morphs.. the still can blow away mikey 8 ) but that's a personal opinion.. and the resouce friendly dude makes large scenes easier to do CHeers