ockham opened this issue on Nov 03, 2007 · 100 posts
kuroyume0161 posted Mon, 05 November 2007 at 2:39 AM
Tired light theory is bunk!
Provide links to papers where the propagation of light (EM energy) is faster than the speed of light... (Of course, light can travel SLOWER than this - well explained, well known, maybe a bit more information needed for circumstances).
I have never heard of controversy with the experiments involving synchronized atomic clocks where one is left on the ground and the other either flown high in the stratosphere or in orbit. The observed disparity in the clocks completely agreed with Relativistic effects. (?)
If there were a controversy between whether certain synchronicity effects were Relativistic or Quantum, it would certainly provide a perfect 'medium' for joining the two theories - don't you agree? I don't espouse either one as more relevant than the other. Quantum effects are as real as Relativistic effects. They may be shadows of each other - both different ways to observe the same thing (that's the key to finding the unification of the two). But it is assured that Quantum effects extend no further than sub-atomic particles and Relativistic effects have not been shown to extend into that realm. This is what makes the conjoining of the two theories an endeavor of over half a century.
You seem to be saying that Relativity is pure fantasy - theoretical physics like 'multi-verses' where no evidence is considered. How many physicists have you talked to about how many times Relativity has been experimentally verified? Even a cursory examination of the mathematics of the thought-experimental system in Special Relativity (the train, platform, and lightning) bears out the reality of the acknowledged simultaneity problem. The antithesis would result in a logical and real paradox. With information travel (speed of light = c) limited to a particular value (as in reality and experimentally validated infinite numbers of times), the disparity in observation MUST occur as the two systems move faster with respect to each other. It is a simple (amazingly) matter of seeing that the distances the information (light) travels to intercept each observer cannot be the same unless both are incidentally at the same point in space. And from there, Einstein logically and stepwise proceeded. If there were any major flaws in reasoning, then supposed black holes, gravitational lensing effects, the performed experiments, and a myriad other factors would be easily dismissed. Yet they all have beared fruit - hmmmm....
C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the
foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg
off.
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