Quote - Ok its very easy to get confused when not been using an SLR for a while.

 With the canon 400D/XTi coming with the 18-55 mm f 3.5 to f 5.6 as the standard lens what do you suggest to get for a good first lens to use for most outdoor landscape shots.  Preferable wide angle zoom if possible...

I'm still an inexperienced amateur, but I'll add $0.02 anyway. That kit lens is pretty lacklustre as far as objective quality goes. It blows away a lot of point & shoot lenses, but I would definitely consider either getting ONLY the body and buy your own lenses, or get a slightly more expensive kit with a better lens (I've think I've seen it  bundled with the 28-135 instead, but I can't remember where). I've been doing OK with that 18-55 kit & a Sigma 70-300 APO DG Macro zoom, but I'm looking to upgrade BOTH of these lenses. I'm renting the Canon 18-55 f/2.8 IS USM to see how that is, and I will also be checking out the Canon 70-200 f/2.8 USM along with a teleconverter for wildlife stuff. My problem with the cheaper lenses is in the glass, aperture size AND in the focus motor. That Sigma only cost me $200US and the kit lens is valued even lower I'm fairly certain. I've had issues with both autofocus clarity & with exposure due to small aperture in a lot of the things I want to shoot. I know I could do a little better with technique, but I suspect I'm going to continue to be limited by the hardware I currently have.

As usual, your mileage may vary..