Okay. Thanks for taking the time to post all of this. It does show the problem. I willl try an Aiko swinsuit type clothing to V4 conversion too and I will check the groups. Where did the swimsuit for Aiko come from that you used? Meanwhile, have you posted all this information on PhilC's forum too? PhilC and Kamilche are very, very good about fixing errors. The update for WW2 will be coming out soon, and if you found something, I'm sure they will fix it. bB