and of course those "Pose" dials negate you from being able to do it manually? :rolleyes: and you can pose the whole figure using them? sorry this seems like a huge rationalization for not liking a figure. just like your assumtion that just becouse their are unified expression morphs people can't use the components of those expressions individually. take a look, not only does this not limit expressions, there are actually more choices for fine tuning expressions than in V3. Yes DAZ offers ease of use dials, but they aren't forcing you to use them, nor are they huge space hogs becouse all they are are erc code which adds very little to the size of the cr2. and No offense but you calling DAZ Studio users fanboys is like the Pot calling the Kettle black.