Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Poser 7 vs DAZ Studio

jetstream opened this issue on Dec 08, 2007 ยท 86 posts


JoePublic posted Mon, 10 December 2007 at 10:43 AM

Penguinisto, this discussion would be so much better if you'd actually know what you're talking about.

I WANTED V4 to be good.
I WANTED to delete all my homemade custom work and instead use the best possible, ultra photorealistic, state of the art latest greatest DAZ mesh instead.

All technical points I brought against V4.1 are perfectly valid.
You think it's ok to sell inferior goods just because the average consumer won't notice anyway ?
How nice.

You think it's futile discussing better solutions in public because not everybody might understand ?

What you call "fanboyism" is the only way to change things in Poserdom. There are no consumer watchdog organisations that could test a product and give an unbiased view here.

Personally I'm perfectly happy with Poser 7 and my modified Unimesh figures. Of course I hope that Poser 8 will bring even better tools and that I'm able to improve my skills even more to create more realistic morphs.

But why should I lean back and just laugh at all those who fall for the DAZ hype ?
Who have to re-buy the same textures again just because DAZ decided that 2000 x 2000 textures aren't big enough.
Who have to postwork bad joints in Photoshop because DAZ decided that V4.1's rigging was "good enough".
Who have to wait hours for renders to finish because V4.1's gazillion mags uses up all their ram ?

If I truly would hate the "buy, load, render" crowd I would just snicker at them, do my own thing, and don't waste my time with such stupid discussions.

All I'm saying is that there are better ways to do things.
And I can back up each and any of my claims with a render.

DAZ has a defacto monopoly in Poserland, so the solution is not to "create my own mesh" (For the record I can model somewhat and know how to rig but I hate mapping.), or don't use D|S, but to make people aware what they are missing and make them ask for more quality.

And by the way, I say the same about EF-meshes.
Sydney is just a rehashed MIKI morph, and while MIKI-2 bends considerably better than MIKI-1, she still has a long way to go to be called "acceptable"
And in general the G2 series meshes are way below what could have been possible.

Check out JimFarris gallery and his modified Posette:
http://xaa.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=posergallery

If he was able to create a Posette that bends better than any "professional" Poser mesh just by himself ,a how much better job DAZ and their professionial modellers using high-end equipment should have done ?

To be honest, I don't think that DAZ will change it's course anytime soon, unless there would be a mass exodus towards another mesh.
M4 will be rigged exactly like V4, and so will be A4 and any future derivate.

So unless someone appears who can match their advertising power, V4 will be the status quo in Poserdom for years to come.

As I said, personally I have everything I need, so I couldn't care less about what DAZ does or doesn't, or what anybody else uses to fill their renders.

But why shouldn't I try and find a few more disciples for the mysterious ways of the MORPHBRUSH once in a while?

At least it provides for some nice Monday morning (Actually evening) DRAMA.

;-)