Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Poser 7 vs DAZ Studio

jetstream opened this issue on Dec 08, 2007 ยท 86 posts


JoePublic posted Mon, 10 December 2007 at 10:20 PM

Shrugs.
I see that I'm wasting my time here.

@Penguinisto: The "Free Market aproach" gives us Walmart and sweatshops as well as lead poisoned toys.

You call it DAZ hating, I call it a public service so that consumers can make a truly informed decision.

MikeJ: Actually, V4.1 has LESS polygons than V3.
So I recommend that you first get your facts straight before you try to give other people advice.

@wdupre: I never said V3's mapping was perfect. But what you all love to forget is that it were the hobbyists that made Poser big.

So the average hobbyist who just wants to make a few textures now has to buy an expensive 3d painting program just so DAZ can save a few inches of real estate on their jpg's?

Or buy a high end modeller because V4 refuses to properly work with Posers native morphing tools ?

I don't think so.

And what Poser hobbyist in the world needs 4000x4000 texture maps anyway ? I reduce all my textures to 1000x1000 or less because I'm not in the habit of rendering wall sized portrays of my Poser people, and so are 99,99% of the Poser users I know of.
Why have so many people such a stupid high tech fetish ?
MORE; MORE; MORE, NO, THATS NOT ENOUGH, WE DESERVE MORE....
It's not "old vs new", it's what works for MANY people and what doesn't.

People were more than happy with V3's mapping. There's tons of free stuff out there to proof it.
What good is a super perfect "professional" mapping when nobody can use it ?

Jeez, you should really listen to yourself.

Any grassroots movement can only take so much commodification before it is destroyed, and V4.1 is the tipping point.
But all that stupid ahtist types be damned, 'cause there's no munney in it, right ?

To you Vicky is just a virtual dress-up doll people play with to pass the time or maybe jerk off to.
It's all shitz and giggles, right, so who cares if she can't bend like a human or if she bogs down an older machine.

But SOME people take Poser a wee bit more seriously, and if they work real hard and put a lot of emotions into their renders, don't they deserve better than having to make do with a freakin' Barbie doll without kneecaps ?

I'm lucky enough to have the talent to fix most of the problems the existing meshes have.
But a lot of people haven't.
And even IF they have, why should they have to waste their time ?

V4.1 is defective by design.
She is neither photorealistic, nor is she easily accessible any more.

Vicky used to be an artists tool everyone could use in any way he liked, regardless of skill and income.

Now Vicky is an effin' BRAND only those are allowed to work with who can afford to spend the time to aquire the necessary skills and buy the professional tools to handle her.

I definitely won't waste my time to fix all of V4.1's shortcomings.
I made several attempts but to me she just isn't salveable because there is not a single piece of her that is actually useable.

As she is now, one has to stick to the DAZ approved morphs and "morphforms", and that's it.

And that's not good enough for me.
And it shouldn't have to be good enough for anybody else.