I think TopMod is a program I've wanted for years. Awesome. Like Hoofd', I found a reference to it in 3DWorld magazine and the past two months, it's consumed all the time ... I should be doing other things ... but I can't get past it. Another program that 3DWorld mentioned is my second favorite freebie, and very different but equally captivating and engrossing - www.contextfreeart.org. Another arrow in your 2D quiver never hurts, I always say. But this is the first time I said it! You might get some ideas from the most recent 10 or 12 posts here at renderosity. Here is a fancy one. and my "new" page . Since that fateful day all my Bryce time is rendering topmod goodies! Getting a large collection! I really like the rind modeling and columns, sponges, golly I've got a handle on a few but there are so many. -thanks for starting a thread, I'll be back I'm sure. Any other magic tools I should know about? ;-) HapiHoli