Hi gang, my two cents (probably not worth that even),. However in defense of Poser 5, I've never had any problems with it (that wasn't operator error).  With the figure of Judy, before condemning her looks, check out the freebie section, P5 only and look at the wonderful things several of those authors did.  I'm referring to ViktorinaP5f, LilianaP5f, FedosyaP5f, and SatomiP5f.  If VikorinaP5f, for example, the author added additional face morphs, teeth that you can move up/down, in/out and also some figure morphs.  From these I learn how to do magnets.  They are still there but buried.  One can really create some beautiful faces with them--I think I did and, if I can, think what you talented people here can do, it would be absolutely no problem for you folks--okay post work is necessary to eliminate creases and adjust eyes in the sockets.

I agree that there is a tremendous amount of stuff in the Materials room involving math functions nodes- a lot that I don't see the reason for.  However, when I get enough nerve up, I'm going to experiment and begin asking more stupid questions.

As for Poser 4, got some really nice freebies for the female poser character, AnaP4woman, Angeline and BE4Mahania--they are buried to so you are going to have to narrow the field to Poser 4 only