Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Apparent Age, The Science of Facial Beauty, and "Babyfacedness"

wikman opened this issue on Dec 29, 2007 · 78 posts


Stepdad posted Sat, 29 December 2007 at 8:35 AM

Quote - Personally, I feel that "erring on the side of extreme caution" amounts to falling in line behind the moral majority and that it crosses that border into "moralism" and "moral panic". My three principles above, when used in conjunction as described in #3, would be cautious enough IMHO.

 

Then by all means feel free to setup your own website and post your Utopia character as naked as a jaybird, that is naturally your perogative.

But if I were the guy that owned Renderosity or one of the folks that work here I wouldn't like to be the one going in front of a judge facing as much as 20 years in prison on child pornography charges just because somebody saw one of those images here on Renderosity, complained to the authorities and the local prosecutor decided to do something about it.

I wouldn't want to be the one hiring a lawyer and paying him $500-$1000 an hour or more to explain to the Judge and jury that the character in question had X amount of hip morph and Y amount of morph applied to this geometry or that geometry so obviously my client should go free and not be thrown into prison for 20 years.  I definately wouldn't want to be the one actually going to jail for your artistic freedom.  If that makes me a member of the "moral majority" I guess I'll have to ask them to send me a membership card and a decoder ring.

That apparently is the one thing you might not have considered in all of this, if some senator, congressmen, prosecutor or parents group decides that your Utopia character posed in the nude is child pornography your not the one they are coming after with their torches and their pitchforks.  It's the guys that own and operate Renderosity that they'll be gunning for, for hosting the images.

And while it isn't likely that such a thing would occur, it is more than possible.  So perhaps you might want to consider that before becoming so indignant about them rejecting your image as being too questionable.  If three or four moderators looked at it and it was enough to give one or two fhem pause, then don't you think that should be more than enough reason to remove it?

It has nothing to do with the "moral majority" or anyone being on a moralistic crusade of some sort.  Renderosity is kind enough to host your images free of charge, and in return they reserve the right to refuse to host anything they find questionable.  That's perfectly reasonable.  At least one or more moderators found your image questionable.  This is also quite reasonable, especially considering it's there neck on the line and not yours if someone's knickers get in a twist.

So really you have several options available to you.  You could setup your own website and host your own images, allowing you to judge their age by any standard you wish.    You could also  do as I suggested previously and use a bit of creativity in posing your Utopia character with her clothes on and post them here.  Both of these are reasonable courses of action.

However to expect the good folks here at Renderosity to put themselves at such risk hosting these images simply isn't reasonable, no matter how many mathematical formulas you can link in from some scientist in Germany.

Again, just my 2 cents worth, but then your the one that posted this and asked for opinions, so please try not shooting at the messenger :)

Stepdad