true nruddock..but the images collaged together in my previous post are me exporting a .veg out of Vue as an .obj file...it works equally well, even better as a .3ds file[for Bryce] as I noted before the .3ds saves also the alpha channel map. I converted this .3ds file in PoseRay to the .obj TG2 expects and it rendered fine[tho at a low res] in TG2. See image.  Question, seriously,...am I not clear in what I write or all y'all not reading the whole thread? I addressed all this in the earlier post.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again