OK Now the excitement has had time to wear off and the hands have stopped shaking..... Light Lab - One screen with all the light options on it, including slider for hard/soft shadows and new option for colour gradients. Terrain Lab - windows now resizable and moveable, new textured preview window. Terrains have adaptive subdivision and can be exported, the material can ALSO be exported as an image map so wysiwyg when taking the terain into other 3d apps. Tree Lab - can create trees using preset elements or from scratch including leaves. Has a gravity component to give drooping branches. Can specify branch density, angles etc. Main interface - some tweaks and it now silver/blue, looks v.cool! New light type - Round Parallel Bryce Lightning - Client app for render only PC's. Bryce can now break up any single image into subsections and each machine can render a sub section, works for animation too. Now I just have to persuade my fiancee the 3 dual 1.5 GHz Athlons are more important than any honeymoon could ever be!!! Mat Lab - no details. Sky lab - one addition, a "Celestial" button for stars, no details but has random or customn options. Pricing - 309 Euros for full, 189 Upgrade, 189 - 108 for us UK residents. Release date provisionally mid/late July. The mag has some screen shots - anyone wanna see??????? Should I have bothered asking????? will scan some in ASAP. ALL THIS CAME FROM COMPUTER ARTS MAGAZINE I AM NOT A BETA TESTER - I WISH I WAS!!!! Later David