Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Should there be negative ratings in the galleries?

gagnonrich opened this issue on Jan 06, 2008 ยท 47 posts


gagnonrich posted Wed, 09 January 2008 at 10:00 PM

Quote - If it sucks and gets a "1", deal with it. Learn from it. Improve yourself already.

Anybody who gives a person a "1" is probably a jerk, so there's not much to learn from them. It's better to ignore them. The point of getting rid of the numbers is that they are pointless. They do nothing to highlight the best of the images and they do nothing to hide the worst. When there is no benefit to having a feature, and it can potentially cause dissent, it's something to put on the to-do list next time the site is overhauled.

The value of a negative number is that it will go back in time and stop the artist from posting a crummy image.

Quote - I never said it was a tit for tat conspiracy, I said that is how it works. I don't need to try or search for proof because it is all there if you look.

LOL. If you want somebody to get rid of the wolf, you sometimes have to show a photo to prove that there is a wolf. Until somebody takes the time to prove a conspiracy, that's all it is. It's nothing more than an opinion until then. Since this is supposedly an ongoing conspiracy, it's not that hard to prove. If it is proven, action can be taken to stop the unfairness. Don't expect moderators, who do not see the problem, to want to waste time looking for what isn't there. Don't expect to your theory to be taken seriously when you don't think it's worth doing either.

There's a difference between the kind of conspiracy that you think is going on with well over a hundred artists colluding to rank one another's images higher and people returning the courtesy of a comment. I've occasionally done it when I have time and haven't done it to increase their rankings. I should do it more often because it's a nice thing for a person to take the time to look at an image and say something nice about it. Most of the time, I've found worthwhile images in their galleries that were worthy of a pat on the back. Just because a person gave me a good compliment doesn't mean that I'm going to add them as a favorite or gush over everything they do. The times that I've made unsolicited comments on other member galleries, I cannot recall the artists doing the same on my gallery. That doesn't matter because I wasn't looking for tit-for-tat. To get 100 comments using that technique would probably take 300-600 comments on other member galleries to get the kind of courtesy reciprocal comments needed to bust the "best" lists. My experience has already shown me that there aren't a lot of artists returning comments--but I don't usually have the time to do it either. The amount of effort to do troll for comments is hardly worthwhile to be featured in a gallery that doesn't have a prize. Cheating would take less, but that's a lot of cheating. If that conspiracy exists, the gallery comments show who said what and when. It's simply a matter of creating a paper trail from the available information.

Think of the kind of hero you'd be if you proved cheating was going on. I don't know what Renderosity management would do if it were proven, but the guilty artists would probably be banned from making comments in the galleries and have to languish in relative obscurity for what they did.

My visual indexes of Poser content are at http://www.sharecg.com/pf/rgagnon