OK to answer some of the above. No mention of any improvements in the render engine "other" than the SMP options. Some of my single frame stuff used to take 15 hours. So some improvement would have been fantastic. Also I felt some work on water textures etc. e.g. waves/water based motion would have been due, nothing mentioned. Another comment in the review says that the more realistic (soft=raytraced) the shadows the "lot longer" it takes to render. Smacks of the "volumetic world = kill your machine or go on a two week holiday before this ones ready" option. As for the modelling stuff, I could not agree more. Boolean modelling can only go so far. For a freebie try for metasequoia - can't remember the link but it's not bad for nothing. Will look for the link, I think I got it from the Poser forum. Having seen whats avbailable in Bryce 5 and Vue 4 I would like to compare the two together myself. Whilst I LOVE bryce and always have this is far from the "major upgrade" I was expecting. Still drooling and counting the pennies/piggy bank/ mortgaging the future wife!!! Also no mention of Radiosity OR caustics. Export facilities seem to be the same for trees as for terrains. You may be able to find more on the Computer Arts website at www.computerarts.co.uk Now theat a magazine review has been published lets hope Corel gets it's finger out and starts releasing some more info! Cheers D