Davecr, Overall I also think Bryce has been a bit more flexible than Vue but the two companies seem to be stealing each other's best ideas and are definitely getting closer. Each has had strengths the other lacked. Based on what little info we have it appears that B5 is not going to be hugely different than B4 and this prompted my "bang for the buck" comment. I was not saying that Vue 4 will be vastly superior to B5. But I already have B4 and do not have Vue. If I buy V4 instead of upgrading to B5 I may well wind up with greater versatility than I would have by continuing to work with Bryce alone. After all, there is no rule stipulating I must work with only one and there seems to be little financial incentive to stay with Bryce only. If Corel gets too greedy with their upgrade prices they should expect that people will consider alternatives.