sackrat opened this issue on Jan 14, 2008 · 56 posts
Quest posted Fri, 18 January 2008 at 11:07 PM
Bryster, I would find better sources for your information.
Boy, you left-wingers sure love your conspiracy theories. I’m sure the “X-Files” series rates really big with you as a source of serious documentation. Guess you really are paranoid after all! Like I said before, I’m not going to justify off-the-wall claims with an argument. If you really want to know what happened then you should see your way clear to attain that information on your own and try to stay away from the tabloids for goodness sake! But just to wet your appetite here’s something from the “prestigious” “The New York Times” considered by many to be liberal oriented for lack of a better word:
“The e-mail messages and Web postings had all the twitchy cloak-and-dagger thrust of a Hollywood blockbuster. "Evidence mounts that the vote may have been hacked," trumpeted a headline on the Web site CommonDreams.org. "Fraud took place in the 2004 election through electronic voting machines," declared BlackBoxVoting.org…
But while the widely read universe of Web logs was often blamed for the swift propagation of faulty analyses, the blogosphere, as it has come to be known, spread the rumors so fast that experts were soon able to debunk them, rather than allowing them to linger and feed conspiracy theories. Within days of the first rumors of a stolen election, in fact, the most popular theories were being proved wrong - though many were still reluctant to let them go…
And the early Election Day polls, conducted for a consortium of television networks and The Associated Press, which proved largely inaccurate in showing Mr. Kerry leading in Florida and Ohio, continued to be offered as evidence that the Bush team somehow cheated…
But while authorities acknowledge that there were real problems on Election Day, including troubles with some electronic machines and intolerably long lines in some places, few have suggested that any of these could have changed the outcome…
For its part, the Kerry campaign has been trying to tamp down the conspiracy theories and to tell supporters that their mission now is to ensure that every vote is counted, not that the election be overturned.
"We know this was an emotional election, and the losing side is very upset," said Daniel Hoffheimer, the lead lawyer for the Kerry campaign in Ohio. But, he said, "I have not seen anything to indicate intentional fraud or tampering." …
A preliminary study produced by the Voting Technology Project, a cooperative effort between the California Institute of Technology and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, came to a similar conclusion. Its study found "no particular patterns" relating to voting systems and the final results of the election…
"I'd give my right arm for Internet rumors of a stolen election to be true," said David Wade, a spokesman for the Kerry campaign, "but blogging it doesn't make it so. We can change the future; we can't rewrite the past."
Vote Fraud Theories, Spread by Blogs, Are Quickly Buried
By TOM ZELLER Jr**.**
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/12/politics/12theory.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&oref=slogin
And what’s more liberal than “The Boston Globe”?
“Democrats, I suspect, would also be much more likely to believe that if the Florida recount in 2000 had not been halted by the Supreme Court, Al Gore would have won the state and the election. In fact, a 2001 review of the Florida ballots by a media consortium concluded that both the recount in several Democratic counties that Gore had requested and the statewide recount of undervotes that was actually underway would have given a victory to Bush (though Gore could have won under some other recount scenarios). And, no doubt, far more Kerry supporters than Bush supporters believed Kerry's groundless claim in a campaign stump speech that one million African-American votes weren't counted in Florida.”
Debunking political stereotypes
By Cathy Young
LOL…And I would add, who in the 2000 election in their right mind would vote for the inventor of the Internet Mr. Al Gore?
Oh, let’s not forget the Katrina conspiracy as well. An article from the equally liberal “Washington Post”:
“And who braved the raging winds of Katrina to do the dirty deeds, according to this elegantly named, overly imaginative scribe? He doesn't name names but implies it might have been those seeking "massive opportunities for real estate speculation" and, of course, "Halliburton." …
…Halliburton's secret deals are open to legitimate question, and the company's no-bid contracts for hurricane reconstruction demand scrutiny. But the theory that there was "massive sabotage" in Katrina's wake is absurd.”
Katrina Conspiracy Theory
By Jefferson Morley
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/worldopinionroundup/2005/09/katrina_conspiracy_theory.html
Or maybe you would like a larger choice of Katrina conspiracy theories if so then you should check out Wikipedia. They have one in every flavor. My favorite is that God was getting even because of all the legalization of homosexuals but do I believe it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_theories_regarding_Hurricane_Katrina
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…90% of mainstream media is liberal oriented and I have provided non-partisan stats in those posts so if you really need to know then search for them.
Left-wing liberal = communist party (or something close to it). Liberal is not the middle; Liberal is left of middle. You have moderate republicans as you do moderate democrats, they are the middle (the moderates). Then you have the right = conservatives (opposite of liberals) and far right which comprise the ultra conservatives and extremely religious zealots (almost the opposite of the left-wingers and sometimes called the right-wing). Think of it as a spectrum of ideologies from one extreme to another. These are identifying labels, which pigeonhole certain belief practices and are stereotypes of those beliefs but people tend to float between them. Like the labels “man”, “woman”, vertebrate, invertebrate they set a class system in language for purposes of identification and encompass everything in between.
The film…I’m on dial up, no way. If it’s left-wing or right-wing propaganda, I don’t want to waste my time with it. Propaganda is propaganda any way you cut it.
Quest