have you tried jointing a couplie of tourus' and streatching and twisting/rotating  them? (G'day doc)
I know in Wings3d if you have them appart a bit and then having the bottom all one face(delete lines + verts) then bridge the opposing faces you can get some cool effects, particularly if the objects are off center from each other. dunno if Poser has an equivinlent??
Jen.