Yes, see above-I've read them several times but haven't done this 'hands on' yet (BTW, I almost always find that when I actually 'DO' it, its not nearly as difficult as imagined). As I said, I've read them several times and I printed out the text this morning. Since you've just used it and its new to you, I am wondering about the mapping method that Krel speaks of. It just seems to me, off the top of my head, that if you are mapping clothing, the mapping method would always be the same-or am I way off base here? I didn't do the box tutorial but I'm guessing that planar mapping was used there (maybe cylindrical for clothing?). Well, tonight when I have time, I'll DO it. Back to 'real' work in the studio where its ALL hands on LOL. Diane