Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Maybe it's just me, but I'm sensing a tidal shift...

DarkEdge opened this issue on Feb 15, 2008 · 119 posts


DarkEdge posted Mon, 18 February 2008 at 7:41 PM

I haven't commented though I have been reading everyones thoughts.

Seliah, I couldn't agree more with the extra effort it takes to make your stuff happen in studio. It's a grind to make it happen in Poser. Carrara helps with that but realistically that's another app to make another app work. Where does it end? Are the companies helping end this, or are they actually widening the gulf?
I don't see a war really Kuroyume, but a stubborness that doesn't help matters. I agree with much you have to say too. Totally failing in the support it (Poser) deserves.

Here is my frustration:
I fully understand and accept that there is a great deal of work and time involved in making multiple apps work together. Zbrsuh to Poser takes some doing, but it isn't impossible. 3ds Max to Poser can happen, but you have to drive carefully.
But Poser to DAZ studio is silly. Poser to Carrara is good, but isn't Poser to Vue just the same thing, but more? Sure Carrara has modeling capabilities, but so what. There are plenty of resources available that can take care of the modeling end. Besides modeling is really out of the league of a lot of end-users. Sure some want to make something, but I would venture to say that most are not buying Carrara for modeling purposes. So what are they buying it for? DAZ figures? Maybe.
Anyways, Kuroyume already solved that problem for us with Cinema 3d some time ago. 😄

Ultimately (by what I've seen and watched) the two companies don't see a need for a better facilitation between their two apps. Which ulimately will hurt one or the other, or both. I understand why major 3d artists look down on Poser (I'm not saying I agree, but I understand their point of view), but I personally see Poser as a stepping stone that really facilitates the whole creation process. Do 3d purist's think it's cheating? Sure they do. But my analogy would be, if I can paint better and faster (for a specific application) with a roller than a paint brush...am I cheating?
It takes a long time to rig a figure in Max, will Max have more control and abilities than Poser? You bet. But there are different niches for different markets (agree again Kuroyume).
I see, and am trying to create, so much more in this program...including and using the figures from DAZ. Am I cheating? Heck yeah! Or my manager would say, "I'm being more productive with my time." Snort. I'm being smart.
What isn't being smart is the two brothers (SM, DAZ) not playing nice with each other at the cost of end-users. No war, but not helping either. Who loses?

I won't stop doing my thing, and will continue to grow in the supported and available apps on the market that allow me to create the art that I feel.
I don't care that 3d geeks don't consider my tool as viable, I do care that the companies supporting my tool...don't get along and play well with each other, ultimately hurting the end-user.

rant over
soap box put away
slithers back to the dark dank hole from which it came

 

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