Okay, Bloodsong, then you are saying just to bring the .obj in from geometries (after making a copy?), do the edit/newuv map/planar and not move anything, shrink it or anything else. Just save the map. This will just give me a map for the existing .obj. Does that sound about right? (I can learn later how to remap, etc.). All I want right now is a map for Hokusai's existing 2 jackets. BUT--for instance, I did not want to include the shirt and tie in the jacket 1, is it possible to do that this way and delete the polygons for the shirt/tie? You know--I CAN do this by guess and by golly until I get it right, but sometimes it just seems like reinventing the wheel when youall are so knowledgable about it. I understand the basics of all this-just not the little annoying technicalities. I hope no one thinks I'm overstepping things asking these questions. I do agree, though, Bloodsong, about trying the various mapping modes. Lots of times I have an 'ah HAH' experience just by experimenting (and not necessarily just with Poser or Bryce, but in my real world work). In fact, experimenting is one of the things I like to do best-but have much less time here than I would like to do that. Diane