Quote - Self referencing paradoxical  exercises aside
I had Noticed a trend in these "poser pro" threads
where someone reads the OFFICIAL feature list
published by SM and offers a subjective,sometimes emotional, opinion about
weather its a worthwhile expense for them personally
based on what has been reported by SM on their website.
And then you unfailingly say***"shrug*** " and admonish this is a "Risky" endeavour or premature judgement because what they just read on SM's official web site May be "incomplete" at best.

shrug 

I refer back to my earlier post which was in answer to your original challenge -- but I'll add to it that such "judgments" generally are premature.  Especially when the judgments are wrapped up in emotion and personal biases.

You appear to be misreading & obsessing on my use of the word "risky" earlier on in this thread (please see point on this below).  It's been my observation that new software releases nearly always offer surprises.  Sometimes good surprises, sometimes bad surprises.  I personally hold out hope that the latest round of surprises will be good ones -- but we'll see.

As I've already indicated -- it's perfectly legitimate for people to say that this package doesn't hold any interest for them -- for whatever their personal reasons might be.  Cost too high, posted features not sufficient (or lousy): or they just don't happen to like SM's website color scheme.  Whatever their reasons are -- it doesn't matter.

The problem comes in when the "emotional, subjective" part gets in the way of the "reasoned, logically-thought-out" part.  And that's when people start saying things like: "SM is going to milk this program for everything that they can, and then trash it"; or similar motivational assumptions / accusations against a corporation of which we actually know little -- because they haven't held Poser long enough for us to know them well yet.

Quote - So I shall ill be blunt about it:

Please do.

Quote - I,as a person who has used poser since fractal design poser2
and a person who has investigated nearly EVERY method for getting poser
content into other programs over the years( bryce, LW 7.5,carrara pro4. Shade7, even 3DS Max4 at one brief point and finally settleing on Maxon Cinema4D+IPP and Vue easel)
as a person who $$Bought$$ the old  poser4 propack"hosting"
plugin that was promptly adandoned by CL and recycled as the PEE CEE only "riess" studio plugins. and re-branded yet again as the new"poser fusion' plugins all of which (except IPP)
only "HOSTS" for rendering only and ignores your host  apps native collision dynamics,cloth,and hair systems.

I don't have any problems with what you've said here.  Here it just sounds to me like you've thought it over, and that you've reached a decision on what's best for your own needs / wants concerning this software.  I won't be critical of that.  That's yours to do -- and I wish you well.

But on the other hand, if you'd insisted that SM was planning on trashing Poser because they:

A.  Are greed-heads.
B.  Have personal contempt for their customers.
C.  Are a bunch of corporate sharks out to rule the Poser world & destroy it at the same time.
D.  Are motivated by other (fill in the blank:________) evil / amoral /  Machiavellian motives.

Then I'd have a problem with what you were saying.  But you haven't said that here --

BTW - there's also this: people sometimes assume (that word again!) that a given posting is directed at them, personally -- when it isn't.  Perhaps it's possible to hold an opposing point of view without personal animus being at the root of the disagreement.

Quote - So My I ask you ,Just this once, for some "Wild unfounded speculation"
on your part  as to what amazing new unnanounced features you Suspect SM might still be hiding and planning to "sneak in" in addition to the Published specs
that would prove the cynical "Baahh not impressed for $399" crowd to have
engaged is a "risky" prejudgment??? .

To put the matter politely: I fear that you've missed my earlier points entirely.

The problem with this question is that it's based upon several faulty premises -- one premise being the underlying assumption that I am condemning people over their private interpretation of a pre-listed feature set.  When what i actually said was that to rely upon a pre-published feature list for a new software as being set in stone is risky -- which it most definitely is. 

For the reasons as to why that's risky: please re-read my earlier posts.  I have no desire to go back over territory that we've already covered in some detail.

But I will mention that you appear to be seeing only 1/2 to 1/3 of what I've said -- I clearly stated that the final results of any potential ((as in: not 100% certain that it'll happen that way)) last-minute changes above and beyond the current feature list -- changes which SM might or might not make -- could work out to be either for the better -- or for the worse.  I even stated that the final version of Poser Pro could also (surprise, surprise!) -- match the currently published feature list exactly.  However, the thrust of your question implies that I said that all potential changes to the software would be only positive changes.....which I clearly did not say.  Read my posts.

My point in regards to this all along has been that we won't know which of the three possibilities will come to pass until the event happens -- i.e. until after the software is actually released.

Quote - humor me ;-)

Oh.......I see quite a lot of humor here.  But it's all in good fun. 

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