Johntommy, I know you have CR2Edit, and very soon Version5 will be released. In that, you can click "Export Embedded Geometry" and it will make an OBJ for you. You can also have the HR2 file with the geometry removed with the new OBJ referenced as an external file, with another new tool, so that you can work on the OBJ without having to rebuild the HR2 every time. Dan http://www.neca.com/~dwilmes/cr2edit.html Sorry Win only for software http://www.zenwareonline.com for ZenPaint, ZenTile, ZenGrid and VueMaster