Hey Sydd. Let me preface what I'm saying that I really like a lot of your 3D work. I've always been impressed by people that can wring as much as possible out of an app. I think we are talking about the same thing on resolution but because of the posting, rather than talking, we're missing each other's meaning. You can take a low resolution model and render it to a high resolution image, it will be very sharp, but not have smooth curves. Conversely, you can take a high polygonal model and render it to lower resolution output. Resolution and polygons aren't the same, but are usually related because it usually just doesn't make sense to do a high resolution render of a low polygonal curving model. Again, there are some things I really like about Poser, and I've used it for a few projects. And I am going to soon start a project where I am going to for the first time import Poser objects and scenes into Lightwave and see what I can do with the improved render engine. Hopefully it works out since I am going to spending time and money on a project I hope to get accepted at film and animation festivals. The hook being that one person (me) is doing the writing, directing, CGI, and post work. I won't be able to do it without Poser, but on the flip side, I despise Poser's render engine. It's doing beta work on this project that I can especially appreciate the work being done on Final Fantasy, in particular the characters, hair, and clothing. The hair and clothing are especially impressive, and I understand all that is their proprietary software. The motions of the characters are likewise impressive, but I'm thinking a lot of it is motion capture based. But I'm sure within less time than we would expect (or maybe not) we will be able to do the same on our home computers. I still remember Poser 1, and I think that came out, what 5 or 6 years ago? So if it isn't Poser, something is always going to keep pushing our envelope. The same is true with the movies. 5 or 6 years from now Hollywood will look back at Final Fantasy as a quaint first try at an all CGI realistic movie. So I say let's keep pushing the envelope, but come on, we have to give these guys their dues for making Final Fantasy look so fantastic. They are some of the best of the best, and to compare their work to Poser is sort of like comparing the Seattle Mariners to a high school baseball team...sure, their both playing baseball... Thanks for your comments Sydd, I definitely see your points and agree with them largely. Final Fantasy opens July 15th, FYI. i also saw Shrek just recently and that was very well done. I saw the making of Shrek, and they must have mentioned 15 times that "this is the first time anyone has done this," phrased one way or another. Knowing DreamWorks, they stepped on it to get it out before Final Fantasy, otherwise they wouldn't be able to say that (and it must be important to them judging by the number of times they say it!). Just like they put in a lot of OT to get Antz out before Bug's Life. It's the DreamWorks way... To conclude, Render On!