And that's exactly why I've almost given up on the Poser community -- it's run by guys who clearly can't get a date in the RW and have decided to take a nifty little program and use it porn... uh, excuse me, erotica. Someone in there noted that if an alien culture looked at the things available for Victoria at the moment, they would figure our women were either all exhibitionists or strippers. I can hardly wait for the day when we have the ability to seamlessly import Poser animations in Bryce constructs. God knows what these fertile little minds will come up with for that.....