Actually, I should have brought up both... there are technical similarities between Apollo and V4... 

and on the other hand I've seen people about which male figure they like better... Apollo vs. Michael... or David purely on the 'out of the box look'  Which I never really understood why so many 'artists' can't see past the default look.  (well, let's not digress into that can of worms...)

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