Thanks Carolly, I hope to have an updated version of the pic to post shortly with many of the suggestion given here included. Getting the perspective for the scene right seems to be my biggest hang up at the moment. There is just so much detail that I am trying to work in and yet I need to keep a focual point as you mentioned. I really thing the suggestion you made for expanding or repositioning the dragon breath so that Bard's face is silhouetted a bit more is the way to go, but I just can not seem to get it to work just right yet. But I am not giving up! :o) Thanks again one and all, your encouragement and suggestions are really appreciated. Rob